Monolayers of the phospholipids 1,2-dipalmitoylphosphatidylethanolamine (DPPE) and 1,2-dipalmitoylphosphatidylcholine (DPPC) are studied at the water/air interface in contact with n-hexadecane, n-dodecane, and bicyclohexyl by null ellipsometry and X-ray reflectivity along the isotherms. From recent diffraction data we derive refractive indices n(x) and n(z) to calculate the thickness of the mixed films in the condensed phase by ellipsometry. The thickness is compared with the results from X-ray reflectivity measurements. Both methods reveal that the mixed lipid/hydrocarbon film is not covered by a thin hydrocarbon film as known from short chain alcanes like hexane. The incorporation of the hydrocarbon affects the film thickness by reducing the tilt angle of the lipids. This way DPPC, which due to the large head group does not exhibit a non tilted condensed phase at the water/air interface at all, enlarges its value for n(z) at the expense of n(x), yielding a condensed mixed phase with zero tilt angle. The resulting value for the thickness of the tail region from both methods is always smaller than 21 A, showing that penetration is strictly limited to the monolayer region.